[catch]

Well if you only work with marketing, then I have to admit that you are like a sleek polititian - basically avoiding answering questions, you don't want to answee, in a very smooth way.

hehe, thx, allthough that´s not my intention, and I cannot see avoiding me answering any questions except as given in point 2) and 3) when reading above...

well if catch is here to market his service, then I think it is allowed to ask him questions ... or? And following more questions are asked since he is nicely avoiding answerig some of them ...

sure, while the question I were asked several times now, which you believe I prevent to answer, I have answered already several times as readable above...

Can we understand this as they are several registrars??

once again, no you can´t... ecommerce isn´t registrars only... it´s a wide range... but to put it once again clear: NO the cooperation of the companies that launched catch.info are NOT several registrar companies... I mentioned several times before, we are operating within nic.se limiations...

May we move on now?

best regards, al

[htiawe]

Originally posted by jacobjs@Aug 27 2008, 22:29
I don´t really understand the problem. If their service works, then I don´t care if they use multiple registrars. If it doesn´t, we will sure hear about it here on the WN forum.

If someone doesn´t think that the service is following the rules of Nic.se, I suggest that that person (if he bother) send a complain to nic.se and let them handle it themself.

Or am I missing something?

The problem is that if they are using multiple registrars then they are "cheating the system" and making it harder for competitors to get a foot hold in the business which in the end could result in one big snapback provider that can jack the prices as they see fit.

[jacobjs]

Ursprungligen postat av htiawe

The problem is that if they are using multiple registrars then they are cheating the system and making it harder for competitors to get a foot hold in the business which in the end could result in one big snapback provider that can jack the prices as they see fit.

But isn´t that up to Nic.se to decide before or after an official complaint have been made? Not trying to argue in anyway, it just seem like they are the proper instance for the issue.

[Helix]

Originally posted by JonathanS@Aug 27 2008, 17:37
There's nothing wrong with providing snapback for released .se domain names. The thing that was wrong with snapback.se was the unfair cooperation of several registrars/ombud. .SE registrars/ombud are free to provide snapback, granted that they don't warehouse the domain names (register them for themselves, their employees or friends/relatives).

Jonathan,

Då jag litar på dina kunskaper inom ämnet; är det enligt avtalet med nic.se för ett enda ombud att ha auktioner och sedan registrera för högsta budet?

Sedan kan man egentligen säga att nic.se skulle väl ha otroligt svårt att bevisa att ett företag som driver auktioner använder sig av flera ombud egentligen, om de inte vill visa det eller göra det offentligt ...

[catch]

...making it harder for competitors to get a foot hold in the business...

Do you mean about the same as in being a new service provider and being suspected/accused on using unfair practices just for the single reason of providing a good performance...? About like that making it harder for a new competitor....?

best regards, al

[Helix]

Originally posted by jacobjs@Aug 27 2008, 23:55
But isn´t that up to Nic.se to decide before or after an official complaint have been made? Not trying to argue in anyway, it just seem like they are the proper instance for the issue.

Ja, det är klart, men kanske den frågan är redan ställd till nic.se ... men i och med att detta är en diskussionstråd så kan man ju diskutera detta, då tjänsten är likt snapback.se på alla sätt och där fanns det ju frågor som resulterade i uppsägningar och varningar på grund av flera (och inte bara en) orsaker.

[jacobjs]

Ursprungligen postat av Terabyte

Jonathan,
Då jag litar på dina kunskaper inom ämnet; är det enligt avtalet med nic.se för ett enda ombud att ha auktioner och sedan registrera för högsta budet?

Jag tror att jag kan svara.

Ombudet får varken direkt eller indirekt ägna sig åt ”warehousing” eller handel med
domännamn. Härmed avses att varken Ombudet eller sådan fysisk eller juridisk person
som av omgivningen framstår som närstående till Ombudet får försälja och lagerföra
tidigare registrerade Domännamn samt inte heller ansöka om registrering av ett stort
antal Domännamn utan utryckligt uppdrag från Innehavaren.

Ombudet får inte överbelasta .SE:s nät, hindra .SE från att tillhandahålla sina tjänster (t
ex genom s k Denial of Service attacker) eller utföra annan åtgärd som kan hota driften
eller stabiliteten av se-domänen.

Källa: Bilaga A - Regler för ombud. www.iis.se/docs/mallbilagaA.pdf

För den som är intresserad av ombudsavtalet:
www.iis.se/docs/mallombudsavtal.pdf

EDIT: hade ej koll på ovanstående när jag skrev mina tidigare inlägg. Catch.info bryter således självfallet mot Nic.se:s ombudsregler.

[catch]

Ja, det är klart, men kanske den frågan är redan ställd till nic.se ... men i och med att detta är en diskussionstråd så kan man ju diskutera detta, då tjänsten är likt snapback.se på alla sätt och där fanns det ju frågor som resulterade i uppsägningar och varningar på grund av flera (och inte bara en) orsaker.

Well in Austria, where I live it would be considered impolite if one does a conversation with someone where both partners invested time in if one partner would switch all of a sudden to another language, he knows that the other partner doesn´t really understand, but that might differ in Sweden...

If I got your posting correct you are asking somehow wether one could ask the nic.se wether we would do anything against the rules like snapback obviously did(?): Didn´t I tell you right in one of my first posting, feel free to ask nic.se yourself wether what we are doing is within the limitations, since you had been that suspicious and it was foreseeable that no mather what I was telling some people still wouldn´t believe anything.

Since I am not that suspicious I don´t question the motivation behind that...

best regards, al

[Helix]

Nja, jag kan också läsa vad som står där och har gjort det, men idet fallet handlar det om domäner man inte äger som man har en auktion på och då är frågan om detta som du citerar kan tillämpas på auktioner.

[jacobjs]

Originally posted by catch@Aug 28 2008, 00:05

Well in Austria, where I live it would be considered impolite if one does a conversation with someone where both partners invested time in if one partner would switch all of a sudden to another language, he knows that the other partner doesn´t really understand, but that might differ in Sweden...
If I got your posting correct you are asking somehow wether one could ask the nic.se wether we would do anything against the rules like snapback obviously did(?): Didn´t I tell you right in one of my first posting, feel free to ask nic.se yourself wether what we are doing is within the limitations, since you had been that suspicious and it was foreseeable that no mather what I was telling some people still wouldn´t believe anything.
Since I am not that suspicious I don´t question the motivation behind that...
best regards, al

Al, I suggest that you have someone to translate these documents for you.

www.iis.se/docs/mallbilagaA.pdf
www.iis.se/docs/mallombudsavtal.pdf

Best, Jacob