[autosvar]

Originally posted by catch@Aug 27 2008, 17:09
So I am not totally sure what exactly snapback did do, but it seems as it wouldn´t only have been the backorder service (which btw are other companies as e.g. binero doing as well without problems as far as I know)...
best regards, al

Snapback aggregated several snapback services. Registrars only working for themselves should not be a problem.

[JonathanS]

Originally posted by Terabyte@Aug 27 2008, 21:02
... the service you provide is a cooparation of several registrars ... so I think your interpretation of his answer is skewed.

Is this claim correct, catch? Or do you have any other close connection to the registrar(s) you're using for your snapback service?

[catch]

since the service you provide is a cooparation of several registrars

no - as mentioned before somewhere - we´re a service created by a cooperation of several companies being more or less based in the online business...

Is this claim correct, catch?

no it´s not... it´s what I meant to express by "interpretations" rather than "facts" in my other post...

what we are doing is a simple backorder service here with quite some good performance as we believe... so basically I can´t see the big deal here, nevertheless I will of course keep trying my best to explain arising questions allthough honestly I would prefer if we could take the "trust" - thingy out of discussion for a while, since I believe for those that are suspicious on us, it wouldn´t make a difference anyway no matter whatever I say, so only experience and time may teach that we are trustworthy people....

best regards, al

[JonathanS]

Originally posted by catch@Aug 27 2008, 21:25

no as mentioned before a service of several companies being more or less based in online business...

Ok. So you're just using one (1) registrar for your snapback service then? Without any professional/personal connection to this one (1) registrar? You're thereby offering the exact same success rate as all other snapback service providers, though with an auction approach.

[catch]

well our success rate has been >90% in the last drop (on the domains backordered with us)... know-how is the real valuable resource...

if you read through the thread, please have a look on what happens here. There is more or less 2 things we are critisized for and asked justification for

1) being new and therefor "suspect"/not to be trusted

2) having good performance and not being willing to publicate the complete way how we manage to be good performing.



Facts are:


1) None of our customers did post anything that would/should make someone suspicious - since we simply do serious business.

2) Of course I cannot and will not post internal information on how we do exactly - since that would equal to a how-to/tutorial on how to copy our system and performance for everyone.

3) Of course I won´t post privately written communications just to "proof" something - that would be unserious, which we are simply not.

4) Nic.se doesn´t have a problem with what we are doing (as it doesn´t with other snapservices that operate within the given limitations as we do).



So don´t get me wrong, I am willing to answer all queries that are arising, but can´t and won´t do anything as given in 2) and 3).

best regards, al

[JonathanS]

Originally posted by catch@Aug 27 2008, 21:46
So don´t get me wrong, I am willing to answer all queries that are arising ...

No, you're not. I've asked you the same questions twice, without any answers. And these are questions that doesn't require any revealing of "internal information" or "privately written communications". Do you cooperate with multiple registrars? Do you have any professional/personal connection to the registrar(s) that you're cooperating with?

The success rate really doesn't state all that much. It really only depends on how "interesting" the released domains are (ie, the number of registrars that are competing for the domains). I'm pretty sure you guys aren't the only once with know-how when it comes to .se domains

[catch]

The success rate really doesn't state all that much. It really only depends on how "interesting" the released domains are (ie, the number of registrars that are competing for the domains).

All of the domains backordered with us had been backordered with at least one other service (of those where one can view wether there exists a backorder)... anyway doesn´t really make sense discussing that... time will tell...

I'm pretty sure you guys aren't the only once with know-how when it comes to .se domains wink.gif

hopefully In fact I didn´t mean to express that others wouldn´t have know-how but rather explain that it´s not all about what some of you obviously suspect us to do - probably based on our success rate since there wouldn´t exist any other reason I can think of - but rather more about know how, while of course I won´t give a tutorial here on how to copy...

No, you're not. I've asked you the same questions twice, without any answers. And these are questions that doesn't require any revealing of "internal information" or "privately written communications". Do you cooperate with multiple registrars? Do you have any professional/personal connection to the registrar(s) that you're cooperating with?

About the privately written communications: That hadn´t been adressed to you but mentioned since I was asked to do so when reading above...

About the registrar thingy, I already gave you the answer when reading a little between the lines... so yes I am... once again, we are operating within nic.se limitations... and no, the claim above is not correct...

best regards, al

[jacobjs]

I don´t really understand the problem. If their service works, then I don´t care if they use multiple registrars. If it doesn´t, we will sure hear about it here on the WN forum.

If someone doesn´t think that the service is following the rules of Nic.se, I suggest that that person (if he bother) send a complain to nic.se and let them handle it themself.

Or am I missing something?

[Helix]

Originally posted by catch@Aug 27 2008, 23:00

All of the domains backordered with us had been backordered with at least one other service (of those where one can view wether there exists a backorder)... anyway doesn´t really make sense discussing that... time will tell...

hopefully In fact I didn´t mean to express that others wouldn´t have know-how but rather explain that it´s not all about what some of you obviously suspect us to do - probably based on our success rate since there wouldn´t exist any other reason I can think of - but rather more about know how, while of course I won´t give a tutorial here on how to copy...

About the privately written communications: That hadn´t been adressed to you but mentioned since I was asked to do so when reading above...

About the registrar thingy, I already gave you the answer when reading a little between the lines... so yes I am... once again, we are operating within nic.se limitations... and no, the claim above is not correct...

best regards, al

Well if you only work with marketing, then I have to admit that you are like a sleek polititian - basically avoiding answering questions, you don't want to answee, in a very smooth way.

The qestions by JonathanS have not been answered and you probably will not answer them, because it would probably reveal cooparation with several registrar and it is not allowed.

1) Our service is based on a cooperation of several Austrian companies (whereof Ulrich Internetmarketing is one of those) that are based in the ecommerce market for quite some time now.

Can we understand this as they are several registrars??

I don't either believe that you have been foward with nic.se and got clearence that everything is allowed if you cooperate with several registrars, but once again you will never admit it on an open forum.

[Helix]

Originally posted by jacobjs@Aug 27 2008, 23:29
Or am I missing something?

well if catch is here to market his service, then I think it is allowed to ask him questions ... or? And following more questions are asked since he is nicely avoiding answerig some of them ...

Otherwise it merely would be just an advertisement and not a discussion thread ...